FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

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FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby simo96 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:29 am

Hoe much can you remove from the flywheel without it going bang on a 99/900?

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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby SwedeSport » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:31 am

I have been running one in my 86 900 that has about 5 lbs taken out of it. I think you could probably go a little more than that. If I were to do another one, I would have the weight reduced on the outer edges as much as possible. My last one had most of the weight removed from the back in the recess towards the center.

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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby Luke » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:55 am

I had this one made for my 16V engine. It is based on drawings of what the works team did.
I forget the exact weight, but its light :)

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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby DrewP » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:03 pm

The same guy who did Luke's did the flywheel in my '85 without all the pocket work. It's got the back face turned down some around the mounting flange, the surface is cut a little shorter, and some taken out around the outer diameter next to the ring gear. It's down to sit flush with the edge of the pressure plate.

Stock is 22 or 23 lbs, I think mine weighs 15 or 15.5 lbs, so 5-6 lbs without too much work, more if you go berzerk.

The Fidanza aluminum flywheels weigh about 10-11 lbs if you can find one, I picked up a used one with a clutch for about $200 a couple months ago.
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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby aero84 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:28 pm

HI Guys

We have talked about this before..
In Sweden you can buy a flywheel at just 4,9 kilo.
But its not sutable for turbo cars...

www.folkraceshop.se

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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby Geoff » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:54 am

4.9 kilo = 10.8lb
800 SEK = 118 USD = 75 GBP

Sounds like the best "bang for the buck" out there.
It looks like you could put timing marks on from about 0° to 15° or 20°.

Just find a local, inexpensive, machinist; shipping from Sweden would not be very cost effective. I'd have the machinist put some radii on some of those sharp corners though.

Jakob, is it not suitable for turbo cars because of the diameter of the clutch pressure plate and disk? I would think you might be able to use it on a turbo car with a stronger clutch that has the same diameter as the non-turbo cars.
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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby KoogiA17 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:28 pm

I happened to have a flywheel drawn up in CAD so I had a little play around with what could be removed.

Got it down to 6.1 kg/13.5lbs without the need for machining holes / deep recesses. Was still conservative so more scope for removing mass.

People on UKSaabs took theirs to Puma Racing to have machined. (Are you rallyv4?)

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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby Crazyswede » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:26 am

just shipped 2 boxes to australia...one weighed over 10 lbs and had $800 insurance on it...cost $100 to ship that box via usps.
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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby Geoff » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:43 pm

Do you mind sharing your CAD file?
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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby aero84 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:01 pm

Hi Geoff

I will check with folkraceshop.se why they say its not suitable for turbo engines.
And then I will be back.
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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby simo96 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:01 am

Yes I am rallyv4, so I know Dave Barrow quite well. My flywheel has had quite alot removed from the rear, I will measure the thickness that is left, but it must be around 8mm.
Dave after talking to Dave Barker (Puma racing) recon you probably dont want to remove too much out of the rear due to strength reasons (ideally we know we want to remove mass from the outer dia).
Whoever did mine drilled some nasty holes to mount to a lathe face plate, then managed to inprint the face plate into the clutch surface.

The Turbo has alot more torque than the N/A engine, so I guess that Swedish item is a bit near the bone!

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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING for T5

Postby Jon1 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:55 pm

Here is a flywheel that has been modified to be used with T5.
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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby simo96 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:13 am

Lukes flywheel looks the Business! Most of the weight removed from the outside. I think I would need to start with a std flywheel. Once you have taken a load out of the rear you wont have enough material left to mill the front (obviously the guy who have the car before me went for the cheaper option).
I have a 2.3 item, but I carnt see the point in wanging all that weight around when the std flywheel with an uprated cover and lining will do the job (plus the 2.3 is not legal for historics).

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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby aero84 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:56 pm

Hi!

I have now recived ansver from Sweden, and they say that the flywheel they have does not fit the turbo clutches!!
That is what they say, but I dont seem to remember that there are any diference in the clutches one a NA verses Turbo car....
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Re: FLYWHEEL LIGHTENING

Postby DrewP » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:27 pm

Maybe the outer diameter of the larger disc hangs off over the area of the cutouts a little bit?
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