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Re: gear kits

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:16 pm
by Blue Jello Rain
Has anyone here used the pictured set with fewer dogs?

Wondering how easy it is to shift/daily drive. I imagine it would last a bit longer than the standard internals.

Re: gear kits

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:49 am
by Crazyswede
I don't think I'd want to daily drive a straight cut gearbox car. Lots of noise tends to come out of straight cut gears. Think of that wirring sound that reverse makes and now think about that sound in your ears all day at 75 mph on the highway.

Re: gear kits

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:25 pm
by Geoff
Crazyswede wrote:I don't think I'd want to daily drive a straight cut gearbox car. Lots of noise tends to come out of straight cut gears. Think of that wirring sound that reverse makes and now think about that sound in your ears all day at 75 mph on the highway.


And with a S&R R&P (6:31) and 31:30 primary 75mph is about 5000RPM. In theory you could use a stock R&P (9:35) and the 31:30 primary and you'd be at about 4000RPM at 75mph (same as a stock 4spd) but your first gear would be real long. It would be about 18% longer than 2nd gear in a stock 5spd or about the same as 2nd gear in a 4spd. Hill starts would be a challenge.

Ratios for the Lars Davidson and the S&R gearsets:
FLD RATIO.jpg

(edited to clarify the actual gear ratios including the intermediate multiplier - '4th gear')

Re: gear kits

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:25 pm
by rsp57
Geoff, is that table for the Lars kit?

Re: gear kits

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:24 pm
by Blue Jello Rain
I'd be up for trying it (If I could find the money in time).

I've just never driven a dog box before (Unless you count motorcycles). My drive to work is about 5 minutes @ 30mph, rarely go on the highway anyhow. If it's stronger I don't care about noise :P

Re: gear kits

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:19 am
by Luke
Geoff, I think that table is a little misleading the way you have the gear #'s labeled, since the "4th" is really the input gear and the true ratios for 1,2,3 is multiplier of that gear. Also, the input gear should really be 18/16 or 1.125 since its driving power from the main shaft to the cluster gear.

Re: gear kits

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:37 am
by Geoff
Yeah, good point. I grabbed the info from a spreadsheet I had sitting in my email from a while back when I had measured the gears but I didn't really look at it too close the other day. I edited the post above with the corrected gear ratios and added in the S&R for comparison. Hopefully this makes sense to people.

Re: gear kits

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:24 am
by Luke
Geoff wrote:Yeah, good point. I grabbed the info from a spreadsheet I had sitting in my email from a while back when I had measured the gears but I didn't really look at it too close the other day. I edited the post above with the corrected gear ratios and added in the S&R for comparison. Hopefully this makes sense to people.


Nice, looks great, for all intents and purposes, comparable to the S&R ratios. :luke:

Re: gear kits

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:09 pm
by rsp57
I have received the ratios from FLD, they are 1st 2.15, 2nd 1.59. 3rd 1.25. They will sell single kits and 4 weeks to make.

Re: gear kits

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:22 pm
by squaab99t
rsp57 wrote:I have received the ratios from FLD, they are 1st 2.15, 2nd 1.59. 3rd 1.25. They will sell single kits and 4 weeks to make.

Thanks Ross. What is the price per kit? What form of payment do they take?

Re: gear kits

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:10 am
by rsp57
Hi Dennis, 17000SEK and bank transfer

Re: gear kits

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:10 pm
by DrewP
Damn... that isn't bad at all...

Re: gear kits

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:27 pm
by Crazyswede
rsp57 wrote:Hi Dennis, 17000SEK and bank transfer


$2011.44 USD. + Shipping and customs

Re: gear kits

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:49 pm
by squaab99t
Crazyswede wrote:
rsp57 wrote:Hi Dennis, 17000SEK and bank transfer


$2011.44 USD. + Shipping and customs

If you want to dance, you have to pay the band.
So if one were to use this for a road car what primary combination would you use?
Drew, shipping to one US address from Sweden might save a few bucks on bond and freight?

Re: gear kits

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:52 pm
by Crazyswede
squaab99t wrote:
Crazyswede wrote:
rsp57 wrote:Hi Dennis, 17000SEK and bank transfer


$2011.44 USD. + Shipping and customs

If you want to dance, you have to pay the band.
So if one were to use this for a road car what primary combination would you use?
Drew, shipping to one US address from Sweden might save a few bucks on bond and freight?



was this gearset designed for use with a stock R&P or for one of the motorsport ratios?